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Mpemba Effect

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Expansion of hot water and ice

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July 6, 2010

I am not a physicist
hot water expands; frozen water expands
A 100 ml receptacle contains less water than an equivalent 100ml receptacle of cold water
hot water presumably requires energy to expand?
can freezing water expand without using energy?
freezing hot water does not require energy for expansion?

Jacob - Ireland

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As water cools toward freezing, it contracts. However, as it solidifies, it forms a crystalline structure that expands. Once all the ice crystals are in order, the ice will then contract with colder temperatures.

The Mpemba effect is not well-understood. One concept is that evaporation or steam coming off hot water cools it more rapidly than cold water cools toward freezing.

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What type of thermometer should be used?

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April 15, 2010

What type of thermometer should my daughter used for this experiment?

- USA

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Most inexpensive thermometers that show the freezing point will work. But note that it must be put in water.

This is not an easy experiment, so you may have to use trial and error to make it work. You can put a hot and cold containers in the freezer and check their progress periodically.

Good luck with the experiment.

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Water not smart enough for experiment to work

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March 23, 2010

From where do you purchase the intellegent water necessary for this experiment to work? If you start with two continers of equal masses of water; the first at 25C, the second at 50C - how do you get the second container to 'speed up' when it reaches 25C so that it freezes faster than the first? Start with 25C and 25.00000001C & you have st same problem. My local water is not smart enough to know it started warmer.

If you start with equal volumes at different temperatures - the experiment is fundamentally flawed.

Mike - USA

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If you would check the Resources on the page about the Mpemba Effect, you will see details and proofs of the experiment from the University of California Dept of Physics, London (UK) South Bank University Applied Science Department and Binghamptom University (SUNY) Department of Physics.

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Want to do Mpemba Effect

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September 30, 2009

mine and jakies science fair project
date:9/30/09
research for projectt do not delete me!!!!!!!!=-]

reyna - USA

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This is a difficult experiment. You had better try it out to see if you can make it work.

Even if you cannot prove that hot water freezes faster than cold water, if you do the experiment well, you should get credit for it.

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Want to de Mpemba experiment

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March 10, 2009

what materials do you need?

long - USA

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See: http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/experiments/expmatterstates2.htm
for the experiment.

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I tried the mpemba effect and need help

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December 1, 2008

I tried the mpemba effect and I need help

Nicholas - USA

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It is not easy experiment to do.

Take a look at the Reader Feedback to get some ideas about what others have done.

Also see the material on the experiment at:
http://www.school-for-champions.com/science/experiments/expmatterstates2.htm

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Using ice cube trays with hot and cold water

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August 22, 2008

A practical application for me would to use the common plastic ice cube trays with cold and hot tap water. Controlling other factors, from which would I get ice cubes first? And approximately how much sooner?

Ted - USA

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It is impossible to estimate time unless all the conditions were known.

This looks like a simple enough experiment to try yourself. You can also try to vary some conditions to seee if you get different results.

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Effect works with Zamboni ice resurfacer

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February 18, 2008

My comment about the more rapid freezing of the HOT vs. COLD water dispensed by the Zamboni ice resurfacer at a pro hockey game led to my daughter's info search about this phenomenom which I had recalled from my early 70's high school physics class. Although the explanation given at that time was much more simplistic, we all became believers after a few good lab tests.
I don't recall any reference to the young Mpemba and had just presumed that the Effect was a long-known law of physics.
Thanks for the info.

Jim - USA

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I'm glad the material was useful to you and your daughter.

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Thinks Mpemba effect is obvious

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December 5, 2007

Hot water doesn't freeze at all. Only cold water freezes. During the process of cooling the hot water will become the temperature of the colder water and the process would become equal for both of them. A truer statement would be" previously heated water will freeze faster because it doesen't contain as many dissolved gases" The waters are not identical anymore than if one sample was salt water.If you heated two volumns of water and put them in full, sealed containers, kept one heated, then put them in the freezer,they would both contain the same amount of dissolved gasses and the colder sample would freeze first.

The Mpemba effect only proves that water with less dissolved gases freezes faster than water with more dissolved gasses or, fresh water freezes faster than salt water. We all knew that!

J - USA

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Obviously, hot water does not freeze. It must first get cold enough to freeze. But water starting hot freezes faster than water that starts off cold in some situations.

Dissolved gas in the water is only one possible reason for the Mpemba effect. There are numerous parameters that can cause this effect. If "we all knew that" then why have scientists studied this phenomenon so much?

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What happened to Mpemba afterwards?

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June 17, 2007

My question is to do with Mpemba himself rather than the Mpemba effect. This happened almost forty years ago in Tanzania. Where was it in Tanzania? and what became of the high school student Mpemba?

Eric - Tanzania

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The student's name was Erasto B. Mpemba and he went to Mkwawa Secondary School in Iringa, Tanzania. Unfortunately, we can't find any information about what happened to him afterwards.

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